I know its not allowed to include bestiality in stories, but... What about a "reference" to it, I mean as long as you don't go into any real detail, like "it was clear to you that she began to fornicate with the bear"? And don't give me any of that "Oh you sicko, you need Jesus, Deus Vult infidel" BS, especially not when its likely coming from people who are turned on by violence, domination, rape, pain, adultery and incest.
Should be alright as long as you don't describe it. The same goes for making reference to underage sex if I recall correctly. Though feels like you're watching in that exact moment it happens, which may be tricky.
Depends on what you mean by "reference". Assumptions: - "she" isn't a non-sapient bear - the "bear" doesn't pass the Harkness test Then the non-human creature is depicted having penetrative sex with a human creature. So that would violate the rules.
Huh... you know, it never really occurred to me that non-sapient animals might be okay as long as they were paired up with other non-sapient animals. But in theory, it makes sense. Bestiality is define as a "person"(or person-equivalent) having sex with a non-sapient animal. That could lead to some possibilities like say... A jaded lover turns their adulterer lover into a female dog(with animal intelligence) and ties them out at the local dog park... or two people getting turned on by watching horses bang in a field. Animal x animal is just animals....doing what they do on the Discovery Channel. As long as the participants parners don't cross the sapient barrier.
Won't work. I mean, the lover is still a sapiens. I apply what I have read about transformations+underage sex here on the forums.
So if it's from people who are not turned on by violence, domination, rape, pain, adultery and incest, they can say that? What if they're only turned on by violence, domination, rape, pain and adultery but not incest? Is it okay if they say "Oh you sicko" without mentioning Jesus? Can you tell you you need Jesus without calling you a sicko? Ironically the bible itself is quite pornographic, especially with the crucifixion though it would have been better if it was a female being whipped and crucified.
See, this is why I stick to fantasy. Much clearer and easier to navigate lines. If you want to fuck a bear, then fuck a bear...just make sure that it's a person first. Give it hopes and dreams. Give it a 9-5 job where it works to provide for its bear-wife and bear-daughter and hopes to buy a bigger bear cave someday. Give it thoughts and opinions. Make it join a political movement. I hear that Make Narnia Great Again is popular right now....although their leader is a real witch. If you want to make it taboo, then put Bears on the bottom of society. Make them Second or even Third class citizens. The real dregs of it. I'm thinking like bottom of the old Indian Caste System. Untouchables. Those darn Wolves always keeping people down. Then and only then....with just a little bit of world building can you fuck a bear...because at that point, it's not a bear. It's a person(that just happens to look like a terrestrial bear). Oh and I guess it has to be able to speak...and not just speak, but understand and know what it's saying. Just repeating words like a parrot isn't good enough.
Given the time we live in, we(the sickos), should really just be glad of all those things we're still permitted to write.