Do you ever write outside your interest?

Discussion in 'Authors' Hangout' started by porneia, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. Simon_Silver

    Simon_Silver Guest

    I too find that, while I respect and admire the LGBT community, I cannot write content of that sort worth a damn. I would gladly approve such content if it was submitted to me, but while I would approve it I would have no fun checking it over and probably in the case of m/m content be somewhat repulsed and turned off by it. This is a failing in me that I have no ability to correct, I tried to be Bi briefly in college and found it did nothing for me. I am, regrettably, 99% heterosexual, my only real sexual attraction is women and the only reason I don't put it at 100% is that while I have no desire for sexual relations with them I can appreciate the male form in an aesthetic way and more importantly am in a long an committed homosexual relationship: with myself, as is almost everyone.
     
  2. Zingiber

    Zingiber Really Really Experienced

    Sure. Threads that have a humiliation, fear, or forcible domination aspect aren't really themes I enjoy, though they may be important to the character or the story. Sometimes I can make them more engaging to write by focusing on the characters' feelings rather than dwelling upon the acting out of the forced actions.

    Moving from hesitation and reluctance around sex to joyful acceptance. This carries over into an "enabling parent" variation on incest or borderline incest themes. (or way over the borderline: most of my story When The Cat's Away ends up there, though it wasn't originally framed that way)

    Letting sexual energy and connection openly interpenetrate everyday human relationships (e.g. my contributions to Torg's Living Like Bonobos and my story Office Morale), or having sex secretly act as the glue holding together (unlikely?) allies via affection flowing from shared pleasure. Some of the dynamics in whizzper's town of Hope, Illinois in Account of Courtney and Jeremy have this "secret sexual bond" nature.

    Answering bodily shame and embarrassment (body shape, a woman farting during sex) with kind loving acceptance.

    Cunnilingus. Anal play. Male and female bisexuality.

    Detailed sensations, breaths, sounds of sex.

    More natural bodies rather than ones more made-up, shaped, shaven, perfected.

    Friendly, open, supportive watching of sexual activity. Group sex, sometimes wild and implausible connections (the sales team in Office Morale). Emotional healing through sexuality.
     
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  3. Beeble42

    Beeble42 Really Experienced

    Actually for 2) I missed out voyeurism. I absolutely love those accidental glimpses of flesh. The idea of peering through people's windows - of course I don't actually do that but there are sites were you can spy on a couple who are of course in full knowledge and being paid. When I'm writing I feel that's what I am doing anyway, spying on my own creations which probably helps my enjoyment of the process.
     
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  4. Torg

    Torg Really Experienced

    1. I had little interest in incest stories, until I wrote a couple threads on one. Then I was hooked and it seems like half the stories I'm writing on have incest themes. I've written a number of FF and MM threads, and I find if I can discover the hotness of the situation, I can do just fine.

    2. Threesomes and group sex, BDSM, incest, impregnation, going from reluctant to enthused, near-non-consent, high school and college, mind control, god-like powers, science fiction, fantasy, stranger sex, celebrities, virgins, ...

    Or some combination of the above. I've written in at least one incest/impregnation/group sex/virgin/near-non-consent story.
     
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  5. Yarkoz

    Yarkoz Really Really Experienced

    Academically, it's interesting to me because there's no comprehensive theory of human sexuality. People have tried (Freud obviously being the most famous), but nothing fits everything and far too much bias lives in the data, mostly in the form of sexist attitudes toward women and flat-out racist ideas toward everyone not white. So what happens when you can change sex physically, but retain your memories of your original sexuality? Would you be trans in terms of gender identity? Would you be gay in orientation? Or would your new brain come with everything that creates a straight orientation and new gender identity? It almost makes me wish that something like the X-Change pill existed, because the data derived from those studies would be amazing.

    As best as the data says, all parts of sexuality (behavior, gender identity, physical sex, orientation, and so on) are separate. They line up in particular ways in common patterns, but that doesn't mean it's all connected into one construction for everyone. Orientation and identity are fixed, as is physical sex obviously, but sexual behavior is more fluid given certain circumstances which are different for different people, based on arousal. Actually deriving anything else from that is unfortunately very hard, and data beyond heterosexual and homosexual relationships, arousal tests, and self-report surveys are pretty much nonexistent. Nothing worth much for those with a trans identity or bisexual orientation, and absolutely nothing worth anything for asexual, demisexual, or anything else out there. The landscape of human sexuality is vast and barely explored, and the best map has "HERE BE DRAGONS" written on most of it.
     
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  6. Simon_Silver

    Simon_Silver Guest

    Actually there's a fairly extensive map, freely available, it's just a lot of it is places sane people don't want to go...

    You can find the map to which I refer HERE
     
  7. Beeble42

    Beeble42 Really Experienced

    I have done a lot in my life, but my pins in the map would have serious difficulty seeing each other in this vast terrain and yes there are a lot of places I would not care to visit. But then other people might want to visit these places and I'm not going to judge most of them. Saw trampling ... shudder - but that would not necessarily stop me writing about it.
     
  8. Marlikton

    Marlikton Experienced

    One story I could never write is from the point of view of someone who is being cheated on and watching it happen like a voyeur cause I can and will remember times when even though I didn't see my girlfriend at the time cheat I remember the pain and grief I went through when I found out about it and than she lied about things that happened with us and even though we never had sex she made up this story and I wound up jumped and a cripple for 3 months. I got my revenge hair remover in her shampoo. However reading a story like "Watching your girlfriend submit" just sends me back to that time I kinda wish I'd never read it but i give everything a chance at least one anyway because it is so easy for me to slip back to that time period in my mind cause I have a photographic memory not to mention some of the things in Hottie Morgan's stories go too far for me. I can understand a swinging or open relationship and I can respect that but what happens in her story is just...not right and abnormally cruel at times who knows maybe people really do like being treated like a dog and made to feel like shit but I don't and can't. I mean I don't see how any of those stories can have a happy ending for the person reading it in how they write it. They seem to get off going out of there way to make the reader who sees everything as the cheated on feel like complete shit or pisses them off to no end like me. I know what gets me off and what pisses me off and I can say with out a shadow of a doubt that until she writes something that has some kind of happy ending for the P.O.V with them both happy and not this whole she is in love with one guy (1st P.O.V) than along comes asshole friend and she just can't help herself over and over and over. I just can't read her stuff anymore it's just depressing and I am not into feeling like that, I'm already medicated up to my eyeballs for it I don't need it to get off too. Hottie Morgan is a great writer don't get me wrong she sucks me in and in my mind I can feel what the Main character is feeling and it just hurts being stabbed in the back and the heart every time you read another story she wrote cause you want to give her another chance to write a story that in one way shape or form might make you the reader get off and not feel like you've been treated like a piece of garbage along the way. Sorry but I had to get that off my chest it's been on there long enough and I'm letting it go. Feel free to reply how you like to my opinion of her story and stuff I respect other's opinions and I'm just stating mine about how I feel when I read those stories. Bill's slutty girlfriend is an alright story but she is still cheating and that means someone is getting hurt again. Funny I can read a story where I'm the guy cockolding someone someone who is a real arsehole towards his girlfriend/wife and I feel just fine with that but while reading her stories I don't see the main character isn't abusing her or disrespecting her until he confronts her about sleeping with Bill than he is cause he is so angry after month's of lies and watching her cheat he finally gets to unload his grief and he calls her quite a few things out of anger if anything He loves her to death but she just can't stay faithful to him. Man I write too much sorry bout that.
     
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  9. FallenSaint

    FallenSaint Really Really Experienced

    I can understand how you feel man. Before I met my wife, I was totally in love with a girl I went to high school with. We were together nearly seven years and planning to get married, but I found out she had been cheating on me. It really tore me up. We had been ring shopping the week before she admitted it to me. I had suspected it on more than one occasion, but never had proof and couldn't bring myself to truly believe it until she admitted it.

    I'm not married to a bisexual woman and we are in a swinging relationship (Odd step for me after what happened...) and I'm very happy. But some cheating stories are too much for me as well. I still find some I enjoy, but some go too far and hurt a bit to read.
     
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  10. Marlikton

    Marlikton Experienced

    thanks I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.
     
  11. FallenSaint

    FallenSaint Really Really Experienced

    I can still read some cheating stories, but cruelty has to be kept out of it. It has to be that they are doing it to help the person they love, being blackmailed, or through something like getting drunk and making a mistake. I can understand the woman still enjoying herself to an extent during the cheating, but not to the point she no longer cares about her lover or husband.
     
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  12. Marlikton

    Marlikton Experienced

    I agree
     
  13. DatAssDoe

    DatAssDoe Virgin

    I feel that a lot of the stuff I enjoy reading about I would never do or enjoy in real life, however I do stick to my groups and I don't write outside my comfort zones.

    Like I would happily read a gangbang in a story but I don't really watch gangbang porn nor would I like to participate in one either. I am fully straight and though I enjoy reading from a woman's POV I don't read or write any gay stuff.

    I guess people just have their likes, real life ones and then another group of online/erotica likes.
     
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  14. Marlikton

    Marlikton Experienced

    Yeah I try to stick to fantasy and science fiction nowadays my life is not at the greatest point right now. One Uncle died last month and another was just diagnosed with Lung and brain cancer so I'm trying to stay positive. Well doing my best anyway
     
  15. Beeble42

    Beeble42 Really Experienced

    No really point apart from 'likes'. I really appreciate your avatar - a perfect bum.
     
  16. DatAssDoe

    DatAssDoe Virgin

    Thanks. You don't know how many photos I scrolled through for that. At least 20 to find just one good one.
     
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  17. TheScyle

    TheScyle Virgin

    Yeah, to come back to your original question: I do it all the time.
    For me that has a very easy reason: If I write a story, I am forming the characters, who are participating in my head beforehand. They get a character, character traits, fetishes, preferences and limits. So I just make up the characters instead of the situation I want them to be in.
    (At this point it should be noted, that I had an easy case of multiple personal disorder (not sure if the english term is correct, I am not a native english speaker) so it comes really easy to me, to identify myself with someone else, as that was what I had to do to become clear of myself and get over my desease)

    After I have the characters, I just let them get together in my head and then I write out what I think they would do. So I just let my instincts write the situation, while my mind just forms the words for it.
    That often leads to things happening I personally rather find turning off than on.

    If you want to know what I wrote on, which I didnt enjoy, a quick summary of those I can instantly think of would be:
    gay, pee, religious, cheating, incest and death

    Also this leads to me often, or rather mostly not come down to the point. I have these characters in my head and even if in an erotica story everyone wants to see them fucking, I just dont. I see how they react and if two character dont fit, then they wont fuck, no matter the situation they started together in.

    The same goes for the mind-control section I mostly write in on chyoa. If for myself the character who gets the mind control powers meets his smoking hot sister for example, I would write it as him just telling her to dress proper and leave her. Because he can find just another hot girl to do, no reason to do the sister.
    Then on the other hand, if it is already established by the story, that he has the hots for his sister, or they already have a past, then of course he could jump right into it...

    I hope you get what I mean...



    TL;DR: I often write things I dislike. I just write what I think the characters most likely would do, based on what we already know of them. I also often give more background story to simple stories than needed.