Death to John Doe!

Discussion in 'CHYOA General' started by TheDespaxas, May 29, 2017.

  1. TheDespaxas

    TheDespaxas Really Really Experienced

    I Made this inflammatory post to remind people that you can leave the customized name system AND pick a default name for your hero.

    It's awesome to want to let someone pick the name they want, but please have mercy and set another default name once in a while.

    I can't read a story about John Doe so it forces me to go set a name each time I want to skim the first chapters of a story to see if it is any good.

    So why not finding a cool name AND giving those that don't like it the possibility of changing it?
     
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  2. Loeman

    Loeman Really Really Experienced

    Thank you for this PSA.

    Honestly I don't like selecting names for other people's stories. It breaks immersion in its own way. When a character doesn't have their own name, it feels like I'm not reading about a person who is their own entity, described by the following story.

    But when its john doe I have to put *something* in - that name breaks immersion even more.

    If you create a character, with their own personality, give them a name.
     
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  3. TheDespaxas

    TheDespaxas Really Really Experienced

    I Knew I wasn't alone, I knew it!

    An idea could be to have 4 or 5 names and surname and pick them at random if the author doesn't fill any name. And while John could be kept Doe wouldn't.
     
  4. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    Ye have my ax! I'll see that scurrilous rogue split from stem to stern!

    (It's hard to pick a good default name sometimes though: I find myself writing a lot of "Robin"'s...)
     
  5. lordxorph

    lordxorph Experienced

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    Last edited: Jul 5, 2018
  6. raziel83

    raziel83 Really Really Experienced

    Yeah, I am also weird in that I don't really like stories where I have to customize the names.
     
  7. TheDespaxas

    TheDespaxas Really Really Experienced

    I Would never do it if it wasn't for the John Doe stories. If the author picks a name I go with it. But John Doe has to die.
     
  8. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    Back when I was just a lurker I loved the custom stories because they made it feel more like it was really ME in that situation, but these days I am less fond of them.

    Something about having the account surname "of Utopia"...
     
  9. Jizzrar

    Jizzrar Really Experienced CHYOA Backer

    This sort of thing also ticks me off. It's almost as bad as when the story preview says that it takes place in the POV of "both" genders, but then suddenly it turns out the main protag is either a dude (mostly) or a chick (rarely).
     
  10. Loeman

    Loeman Really Really Experienced


    Eh, the name thing is way more invasive in the story. 'Both' could simply be the main author optimistically leaving room for other contributors to have options. Even if not, it doesn't affect readability, only expectations.
     
  11. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    Said it before, I'll say it again until they fix it: we NEED an "Either" option.
     
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  12. RicoLouis

    RicoLouis Really Really Experienced

    Need a unisex for the first name.
     
  13. Loeman

    Loeman Really Really Experienced

    Jordan, Alex, Sam are attractive (to me) gender-ambiguous names.
     
  14. mindtheMILF

    mindtheMILF Guest

    Unisex name: Jay Doe
     
  15. Jizzrar

    Jizzrar Really Experienced CHYOA Backer

    I don't think it's the first name that's the main issue. It's really the last name "Doe" which is just gawd awful.
     
  16. RicoLouis

    RicoLouis Really Really Experienced

    Its a problem if the writer doesn't set it up. Otherwise you can have a girl called John.
    With a unisex name it would save the writer a little bit of work if they want to have both male and female paths.

    Ashley
    Cameron
    Carter
    Casey
    Hayden
    Jamie
    Jessie
     
  17. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    Ashley: girls name.
    Cameron: boys
    Carter: boys
    Casey: actually neutral
    Hayden: Boys
    Jamie: boys
    Jessie: boys, girls is spelled 'Jessy'.

    Also my personal favorite: Robin, that one is another true switch.
     
  18. RicoLouis

    RicoLouis Really Really Experienced

    Cameron Diaz
    Jamie lee Curtis
    Jamie Presley
    Hayden Panettiere
     
  19. mindtheMILF

    mindtheMILF Guest

    Last name options:
    • Chyoa
    • name of the theme they choose (incest, mind control, etc...)
    • Doe
    • force author to write name (decreases chance of Doe)
    await response...
     
  20. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    OK, I give you Jamie, but the other two are stage names, they don't count.

    (I also note you didn't dispute Ashley or Jessy/Jessie...)