Do you write for a queer or trans audience?

Discussion in 'Authors' Hangout' started by Testytesterton, May 5, 2021.

  1. wilparu

    wilparu Really Really Experienced CHYOA Backer

    I did finally write an explicitly queer couple of chapters and I'm pleased I tried. I'm not sure it was successful (like, how would I know?) but it doesn't seem awful at least.

    I also wrote a chapter with a character discussing her confused gender identity, which didn't have sex (I had intended it to, but it got too talky) and I think it worked well enough, although at the time I was very grumpy and when I published it I thought it was extra dreadful. But in hindsight I think it wasn't terrible.

    Basically, I have a story idea in mind for a variety of queer sexual encounters that I don't write and I'm a bit more confident I can pull it off.
     
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  2. ittybittyht

    ittybittyht Really Experienced CHYOA Backer

    Now that I’ve had time to process everything and let things settle down, I do want to come back and address a few things because I think I realize where this went wrong.

    When I initially approach this topic, my interpretation of the question was from the mindset of representation as in more LGBTQ characters and stories based on such things. Because that is what I believe is what is meant as being “targeted” for the queer or trans audience. I am 100% for the increase of LGBTQ representation. I also wanted to highlight the work that does exist already that might not be everyone’s in this threads niche.

    There’s a lot of controversial or less popular categories that have a lot of LGBT representation but I know they are controversial which is why I was unsure if there was awareness for them. I was not meaning to imply Tes would only be interested in to trans content, but Tes seemed to be advocating for more trans content and not just gay or lesbian or bi content which does have a strong presence at least in the corner that I am.

    The question that arose from that which turned out controversial is is your interest in more trans content and not just cis queer content because that is another discussion because it’s referring to a different topic essentially. There is a definitive difference between cis queer and trans queer content. If your goal is more trans queer content (and I do not mean that it is only gay content, but overall the seeking for better trans representation (and not just the fetish of sissy content/other similar content that sexualizes the nature of trans people). I believe that cis queer content has a strong presence already, so that is why I believe the question turned to more trans queer content which is definitely more limited. That is what I was trying to ask, not trying to imply that is only what you want to read.

    I believe where things went wrong is I have a very curious and very ADD driven brain who is fascinated by information on why, how, what, etc. I understand that wasn’t your direction with this thread, but that’s where I went. I understand it was inappropriate for me to continue pushing on a subject that was clearly making you uncomfortable, but at the same time I believe my position was misinterpreted for a means of trying to find a catch-22 when I was not trying to do that at all. My discomfort formed when it seemed it switched to a personal attack on myself and my identity as a bisexual woman.

    I realize that may not have been your intention now, but that was my interpretation that you found a dislike in my curiosity just because I am bi, and I found that one, difficult to fight because that just makes it personal and unfair and it also goes into a territory of controversy which I do not like finding myself in. I am not a confrontational person at all. I absolutely hate confrontation in all regards both positive and negative.

    Being called out and being put on the spot especially when I don’t know the right thing to say is something I am not generally comfortable with, so that is when I decided to tap out.

    I don’t want there to be any ill will there or bad feelings leftover because I genuinely think this was just a series of miscommunication and misinterpretation on both parts so I’m sorry it turned into that.

    So let me actually explain my stance. I am always trying to include queer representation in my works. Not just in my adult works either. I have a constant habit of turning women either lesbian or bi and I have no shame in it. A lot of the time I’m not even meaning to do it, but it just happens. My work is honestly 80% lesbian/bi and maybe 20% straight if it even lasts.

    I have considered stepping into the trans/non-binary field as well, but that is where I am hesitant. I don’t know what it’s like to be trans or non-binary and I feel like that I will never know because I just can’t, and to me whenever I do try to write a trans or nb or gq or gf character, I end up feeling like it’s just based on stereotypes, heresay, and it feels fake.

    There has been the occasional NB mention in my stories but they are few and far between and it’s normally just using different pronouns and not a proper representation. I think there should be more, but I also believe there is the fear of the reaction of when you do it wrong. And there are genuine cases where it can develop that thought process as you see people like Scarlet Johansson or other cis people trying to create stories for trans/queer people but then get denounced for not being such people themselves which ultimately loses the opportunity for that story to be told.

    And so it creates this barrier where people want more content, but there’s not enough people who are in the community making such content, and I do believe that cis straight people can write effective and powerful LGBTQ content, but the fear of being denounced or criticized for not being in the community themselves makes people reluctant to even try. I’m not saying that’s what you’re doing, but I am saying that that does exist. Which is why I think trans queer content is lacking.

    A majority of writers and readers are simply cis as with the rest of the world, so you have this dilemma where a majority of people are cis and even if they want to write trans content, there is the fear of what happens if they do. Will people accept it or will people automatically denounce it?

    There’s also the lack of ability to know what trans people want. I watch a lot of content from all sorts of people and yes that does include Blaire White, but that also includes Riley Dennis, Sam Collins, Miss London, and a LOT of other people. And the simple goal is information. There’s a lot to navigate though not only because all of the experiences are usually anecdotal and it’s hard to see what is the majority opinion and what is just that individuals take on it.

    So it’s hard to build a foundation of knowledge when it’s not something that’s being taught in schools and the majority of information out there is very subjective and also contradictory. And because that exists, it’s hard to gather well what is the right approach? And how do we then make content for that.

    Yes, I could take one person and ask them what they like to read, and that transwoman could say “I like reading heterosexual ENF content” and that could then mean that the heterosexual ENF content is then being written for a trans audience, but that won’t align with everyone else. My point is that I think this topic is a lot more complicated than just a yes or no question because there are plenty of technicalities that can be made to say yes, and there’s also plenty of counterpoints that can be made to say no.

    I hope I brought some clarity and I also hope that there are no hard feelings. I think there was a lot that got caught in the heat of the moment. And I’m sorry that it turned that way at all.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2021
  3. SeriousBrainDamage

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    May I politely point out that being this a community of DIY erotic content most of the users/writers write simply what gets their own rocks off?