Intelligent Monsters count as Bestiality?

Discussion in 'CHYOA General' started by Hecaton, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. Hecaton

    Hecaton Virgin

    Dragons etc.? Like the title asks...
     
  2. RicoLouis

    RicoLouis Really Really Experienced

    If it can pass the harkness test it does not count as bestiality.
    Is it of human level intelligence?
    Can it verbally give consent?
    Is it an adult for its species?
     
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  3. merkros

    merkros CHYOA Guru

    It's always weird when these questions come up, because I try and think of the more extreme examples of this rule. Dragons are fine, because they're entirely fantasy creatures, but what about fantasy adaptations of non-fantasty creatures?

    Could you bang Maugrim from Chronicles of Narnia?
    Could you write an entire Lion King fanfiction(which is a series that comprises entirely of intelligent animals)?
    Could you bang someone who shapeshifted into a cat?

    Technically according to The Harkness Test. The answer is yes. Even the last one (she can give consent, but it's a non-consentual situation). However, it feels like cheating somehow.
     
  4. RicoLouis

    RicoLouis Really Really Experienced

    Personally if I have to ask any of these questions I know its not the kind of story I will like. Technically things like zombies do not pass one and two.
     
  5. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    I don't because, I ask those questions for EVERY story, weather fantasy creatures are involved or not. I honestly feel the Harkness Test should be the absolute standard for the whole site, though I know that is a nearly impossible dream...
     
  6. merkros

    merkros CHYOA Guru

    Zombies are weird, because they technically don't pass the Harkness Test, but it's definitely not bestiality.

    It's closer to Necrophilia than anything...

    It...is?

    The Harkness Test is literally the test Chyoa uses to determine whether something is bestiality or not.
     
  7. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    No, it's not: because the Harkness Test demands consent, and here it's fine if they don't give consent, which as everyone should know by now, I find reprehensible.
     
  8. merkros

    merkros CHYOA Guru

    ah...I should have expected that.

    No. It doesn't. The Harkness Test has three questions.
    "Does it have Human Intelligence (or "Greater")?"
    "Can it talk or otherwise communicate with language?"
    "Is it of sexual maturity for its species?"

    Yes, The Harkness Test goes on to say "If the answer to all three is 'yes' then you can...have consensual sex with (it)." However, that's all extraneous fluff. The actual test itself doesn't demand consent. Otherwise one of the questions would be "Is it willing to have sex with you?"

    There's a difference between the ability to give consent(which is basically what The Harkness Test tests for) and the willingness to do so(or lack thereof).
     
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