Patreon Chapters: Some Thoughts

Discussion in 'Authors' Hangout' started by LizardGod, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. LizardGod

    LizardGod Really Really Experienced

    So these are some of the thoughts I have had about Patreon Chapters.

    I should say up front that I don't think they are a bad idea, these are just some of my feelings on them as a writer.

    This is also prob gonna be meandering as all hell.

    1) Word Count and Fucking
    This is kind of a case by case thing but one thing I have found as a writer is that there is kind of an expectation that you will fit a sex scene into the chapter you write. Indeed pretty much all I usually get for a chapter is what kind of fucking they want in it.

    That makes perfect sense considering the site but I have found it can put me in an awkward situation. Since I am the kind of writer that needs to do some lead in. I really struggle with writing anything where I just go from 0 to fucking.

    Sometimes I get chapters that are fine for that, chapters that lead on from the build-up that someone else has already done. However when it is a chapter that doesn't clearly lead to a sex scene you end up eating a ton of words on doing the build up. Tbh the main problem I have is that the Patreon only lists a minimum word count rather than a max. So I feel obligated to write a lot more so I can fit in some kind of sex scene or I have to cut down on the build up.


    This kinda leads to the second problem I have.

    2) Cut Rate Writing

    So this is something that is only a problem if you do pay writing outside of chyoa. Mainly that the rate for doing the chapters is a lot lower than what pretty much anyone charges privately. Personally, I am small time enough that it doesn't really matter to me but since I pretty much always end up close to 2000 words on these things I end up giving a pretty sharp discount on my normal rate.

    TBH I think that the chapter of your choice should be the most expensive tier and it should really have a clear word count, not a minimum. I get that it might turn off some people and it is hard to come up with stuff that you can really offer to people for tiers, but I just think that for the work to cost ratio is really out of wack on them.

    Hell even if they didn't change the cost then at least apply a fixed word count for the chapters and maybe give some advice like "If you want a sex scene then ask for a continuation of a thread that leads straight into sex".

    This prob sounds angrier than I feel. I am not angry or even annoyed, these are just some of the thoughts I have had percolating in my brain.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2018
  2. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    Agreed, on all points.
     
  3. Swallows999

    Swallows999 Really Experienced CHYOA Backer

  4. DoAdventures

    DoAdventures Really Really Experienced

    I agree with all of the above - when I have been chosen I request that I write a few chapters, this way I can provide the word count and give scope to take either or any chapter in another direction from the inevitable "Get to the sex" part of the request.

    Gives me a chance to run things by the owner or requestor also and ensure they are happy with the scenario I'm leading down
     
  5. Nemo of Utopia

    Nemo of Utopia CHYOA Guru

    I've never yet been specifically requested to do a Patreon Chapter, and in all likelihood would have to refuse if I were, due to my personal ethics, but I believe I would, if I were so requested, have the same problems already listed...