RULE VIOLATION

Is there violation ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 71.4%

  • No

    Votes: 2 28.6%
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Yurisenpai

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Hello sexual friends, i have funny question for you.
Can you try to find what part or word of text bellow line is underage content ?
Because this is introduction to story.

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Collections of various short/medium stories

Some things before we start:

  1. All characters have legal age of consent according to law of your country.
  2. All stories includes rain
  3. All characters are girls, all stories are girls-only.
  4. You can join.
  5. ...?
 
If I had to guess... Since not all countries have the same legal age of consent that rule isn't specific enough and should specify 18 which is seemingly the legal age CHYOA uses.
 
TheLeherengin said:
If I had to guess... Since not all countries have the same legal age of consent that rule isn't specific enough and should specify 18 which is seemingly the legal age CHYOA uses.
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This feels like it. The rules of CHYOA are specific and strict on the age 18.

Keep in mind there are some other rules about age, so if you change the line here but feature writing or depict characters with distinctly under 18 characteristics you may still be in violation.

https://chyoa.com/chapter/Rules.560688
 
Legal age for consent and age for buying pornography materials are two things.

18 is in most countries legal age for buying alcohol, cigarettes and erotic material, but for individual sexual intercourse is lower, mainly on the end of elementary school 9.grade.

Its very similarly close on both side of the the atlantic ocean.
 
It's guidelines for writers, not rules for characters.

So it's still not breaking main rules.
Also there is few things that can get more attention than this.

Do you want know?
 
Yurisenpai said:
It's guidelines for writers, not rules for characters.
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Keeping in mind this is just me sharing interpretation (I have no authority): while the thread being linked is part of the chyoa guide, it is a rules document for the site. The text identifies it as such. There's a request at the bottom for anyone reading writing not in compliance with these rules to report it.

Furthermore, whenever you post a story, +18 is a summary requirement in the very brief list of writing rules in the sidebar.

For the sake of argument, yes, you could make all of the characters in your story legal age for the reader if no erotic context occurs throughout your story and, while unusual for chyoa, there is no rule saying there must be erotic context as the site defines it in your story. I think most readers/reviewers, however, will reasonably assume item 1 of the OP is included with the intention of pre-qualifying the story's characters for erotic context.
 
TheLeherengin said:
If I had to guess... Since not all countries have the same legal age of consent that rule isn't specific enough and should specify 18 which is seemingly the legal age CHYOA uses.
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To expand on this, the legal age of consent isn't even 18 in every American state, let alone the whole world. The US Supreme Court said in Miller than the test for determining whether a work is obscene (and therefore has no 1st Amendment protection) is based on local standards: “it is neither realistic nor constitutionally sound to read the First Amendment as requiring that the people of Maine or Mississippi accept public depiction of conduct found tolerable in Las Vegas, or New York City.”

18 is the minimum threshold to get you above that bar everywhere, so that's the rule for the site. Expanding even more, Patreon explicitly bars sexual depictions of minors. If Patreon finds CHYOA in violation, they'll lock their account and cut off a major source of the site's funding.

And expanding even further, between here and Discord, this is at least the 3rd time Yurisenpai has raised the 18+ issue and gotten an explanation. We're well past innocent confusion about the rule.
 
Age of consent defines the age at which a person can legally give consent to have sex.
The age of consent varies quite a lot but is in most areas of the world lower than 18. (There still might be restrictions regarding the age difference if one of the persons is under a certain age.)

Being legally able to consent to sex doesn't mean the person is allowed to participate in the creation of pornographic material.
The minimum age to do porn is at least 18 in probably every country around the world.
In most countries, the distribution of such material is illegal as well.

So it is fine that your neighbor's son has their first experience with his girlfriend as long as they are both of the age of consent.
It is a different thing if you distribute content about characters who might do similar things.
 
The minimum age to do porn is at least 18 in probably every country around the world.

If you do it as full-time or part-time job, except for Netherland, there is 16, but without pay.
But this age is only for direct sexual intercourse and buying videos and magazines, other types of public nudity or participating events as nudist or naturist, is legal in any ages.
 
I found this place where something adjacent to the thing I want to do is legal, and therefore you should allow me to do it here.
 
Their story is in moderation and they were hoping to coerce or convince some of the forumites to unknowingly call out the mods by not fully explaining what's going on. There's plenty of room for discussion on the rules, which has happened in the past. Hell, I've even been on the side of bumping things down to 16 in past discussions...but the lack of full disclosure needles at me a little. There's no reason not to explain the full breadth of the situation.

Ultimately, the difference between 16 and 18 is slight enough that it's an odd hill to die on (Hence why I didn't die on that hill) and the site's rules are pretty clear cut that characters have to be at least 18 to do lewd stuff.
 
merkros said:
There's no reason not to explain the full breadth of the situation.
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this is the introduction chapter after some changes but i think mods still not re-read it again, because in their messages they still write about underage.
Like broken record or customers service staffs/bots on facebook or twitter, we labeled you "CRIMINAL" and that is end of case from our side.

Collections of various short/medium original stories or rewrited stories, etc.

Some things before we start:

  1. All characters are over legal age of consent according to law of your country. (no direct sex)
  2. Characters directly in erotic scenes have legal ages for public sex.
  3. All stories includes rain.
  4. All characters are girls, all stories are girls-only, boys are banned.
  5. You can join.
  6. Fantasy, sci-fi and other genres are welcome.
  7. Humanoid characters will be assessed separately.
  8. ...?

For the first story in this collection, there isn't any mentioning about age, only description of main character.
But i think mods never heards "don't judge a book by its cover".
 
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Some general facts
for any types of stories, novels, light novels, comics, newspapers, manga, and doujinshi, these last two are mainly in japan, you need to know the language you use for you writing and proper grammar, or have editor that can check that text after you and smash it over your head for any mitsake or others thing before it can be published.

But when you came here or other erotic websites, only important rules are
1. No Underage Sex (minimum age is 18)
2. No Bestiality - (animal sex?)
3. No Excessive Violence

Other thing that are strictly required in normal books, are here only recommended and violated on daily basis, because you don't need to know how to write when end of every stories in erotic genre end as fucking sex orgy.

https://chyoa.com/story/CHYOA-GUIDE.6006
Guidelines (Recommendations)
  1. Formatting
  2. Stories: All new stories are subject to review before they become visible to the public. There is a draft system in place to allow writers to create their work over multiple sessions before submitting them for review. Please do not submit your story for review until it is ready for the public.
Most violated part of the rules.
 
Several people have already explicitly outlined the (easily fixable)issue to you.

Yes, some countries have different rules with ages, but even websites still have tangible places they operate out of and servers and have to follow those rules of those places.

There’s really nothing else to tell you. It’s already been pointed out repeatedly how easily corrected this would be.
 
Arachna said:
There’s really nothing else to tell you. It’s already been pointed out repeatedly how easily corrected this would be.
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So how you want corrected problems that are important in normal stories for everyone, but literaly fucked in ass on erotic sites ?
Or your country don't have books ?
 
Given your writing in this thread... clearly you aren't following those rules either... So maybe get off your high horse and stop being willfully ignorant. Follow the rules or leave, it's that easy.
 
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