SeriousBrainDamage
Really Really Experienced
All your post was true, but with this you stole the words from my, mmm ... keyboard?
Nearly there: 10.000 Stories
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All your post was true, but with this you stole the words from my, mmm ... keyboard?
gene.sis
CHYOA Guru
That kind of quality control sounds quite like censoring...
One reason is surely the development of both sites, as chyoa's precursor was difficult to use for a long period.
Though I think that the graph of CHYOA changed recently. Within the last 16 months, the number of stories increased by 25,8% while the number of chapters increased by 38,8%. So nearly 30% of all chapters aren't older than 16 months.
I don't see a reason for these minimums. They would make things only more difficult for the small, thus privileging the big.
Single chapter stories which won't get Likes, neither for the idea nor for the writing, will quickly disappear, so there is no harm.
I started my own story which started with a single chapter of "just" a thousand words and I actually can't imagine reaching chapter 5 before publishing.
Most old stories, no matter if they are good or bad, don't seem to have many Likes which could be related to the change from Rating to Likes.
Send messages. I mean, if you point out typos or grammar issues, it could be strange if there are comments about it, even if the author still corrected his work.
Pointing out errors or wording constructive criticism needs some time which could be a reason to do it just once in a while.
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Respites
Guest
As a baby writer and lurker on the site I may not have a great perspective on things, but I have noticed a lot of the same issues other people have. Nothing is worse than finding an interesting story concept and finding out it's one chapter deep and and a year old or something.
I unfortunately don't have many solutions to the problem, though I may develop them in time. I feel like quality control beyond what we have available to authors now might be a bit too hard to mesh with the style of the site and the way even a dead story can jump to life if someone is inspired. Maybe have some kind of time threshold where is a story is abandoned for x amount of time with no new chapters it can be archived off in some way? Unless that's already done.
That said I want to congratulate the site on nearing this benchmark, I'm really excited to have found it and be able to contribute to it in the small ways I can and have so far. Good work and congratulations.
I unfortunately don't have many solutions to the problem, though I may develop them in time. I feel like quality control beyond what we have available to authors now might be a bit too hard to mesh with the style of the site and the way even a dead story can jump to life if someone is inspired. Maybe have some kind of time threshold where is a story is abandoned for x amount of time with no new chapters it can be archived off in some way? Unless that's already done.
That said I want to congratulate the site on nearing this benchmark, I'm really excited to have found it and be able to contribute to it in the small ways I can and have so far. Good work and congratulations.
Thorn_
CHYOA Guru
I probably don't understand enough about how things here really work to being commenting, but that doesn't change if I don't participate.
There is the adopt a story program which let's author revive dead stories, but it's a question of debate whether or not it should be waited that long to do anything about them. Even then it doesn't seem to put old stories in something separate like some type of, lewd bargain bin sale. It just lets people know what they can use, if they feel like it.
I have also read enough things on here(More than I care to admit) to understand, that just because a story is short, is not necessarily the same as it actually being bad.
With that being said. It's not the same as single page stories. Authors know exactly what they are posting, and maybe I'm alone in thinking in it, but you have to be willing to put the work in, if you want praise. It's purely an option if they only publish the introduction chapter, so I don't think the concept of filtering them would create a biased for bigger stories.
But there's also tons of stories that would still get past the radar that are just long periods of one or two chapter sentences but are advertised as having deep chapter depth, although having no real content. Although, I'm going to guess this is something people already must have went over more than once here, so I will just leave it at that.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Obviously, I don't believe that I would be speaking for everyone. It's just how I feel.
There is the adopt a story program which let's author revive dead stories, but it's a question of debate whether or not it should be waited that long to do anything about them. Even then it doesn't seem to put old stories in something separate like some type of, lewd bargain bin sale. It just lets people know what they can use, if they feel like it.
I have also read enough things on here(More than I care to admit) to understand, that just because a story is short, is not necessarily the same as it actually being bad.
With that being said. It's not the same as single page stories. Authors know exactly what they are posting, and maybe I'm alone in thinking in it, but you have to be willing to put the work in, if you want praise. It's purely an option if they only publish the introduction chapter, so I don't think the concept of filtering them would create a biased for bigger stories.
But there's also tons of stories that would still get past the radar that are just long periods of one or two chapter sentences but are advertised as having deep chapter depth, although having no real content. Although, I'm going to guess this is something people already must have went over more than once here, so I will just leave it at that.
Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Obviously, I don't believe that I would be speaking for everyone. It's just how I feel.
Nemo of Utopia
CHYOA Guru
Auraicide: your comments are accurate and insightful.
In terms of stories that are short but amazing:
https://chyoa.com/chapter/Introduction.2236
I wanted to adopt that story: I wanted to SO BAD: but I refuse to touch it.
"Why?"
I couldn't do justice to it: it is so perfect, so amazing, that there is nothing to do with it except leave it alone until someone with talent that exceeds mine as the sun outshines the moon finds it and creates the next step of the great work...
As for your statements about having to put in the work: that's not always the case is it? I see very high-quality stories overlooked constantly, and ones that I wouldn't use to line my birdcages becoming a major presence with dozens of contributors. However, what I don't see are those stories where the author creates the first chapter and abandon's it becoming a major force on the site...
You are quite right that imposing a minimum threshold of words per chapter is something that has been discussed before, but consensus has never been achieved on how much is enough and what to do about all those 'build a bot' stories that essentially cheat to get to ridiculous 'depth' which is basically just a janky-ass phone tree.
In terms of stories that are short but amazing:
https://chyoa.com/chapter/Introduction.2236
I wanted to adopt that story: I wanted to SO BAD: but I refuse to touch it.
"Why?"
I couldn't do justice to it: it is so perfect, so amazing, that there is nothing to do with it except leave it alone until someone with talent that exceeds mine as the sun outshines the moon finds it and creates the next step of the great work...
As for your statements about having to put in the work: that's not always the case is it? I see very high-quality stories overlooked constantly, and ones that I wouldn't use to line my birdcages becoming a major presence with dozens of contributors. However, what I don't see are those stories where the author creates the first chapter and abandon's it becoming a major force on the site...
You are quite right that imposing a minimum threshold of words per chapter is something that has been discussed before, but consensus has never been achieved on how much is enough and what to do about all those 'build a bot' stories that essentially cheat to get to ridiculous 'depth' which is basically just a janky-ass phone tree.
gene.sis
CHYOA Guru
That combination of 1st person and 2nd person is interesting but odd.
I think there were never complaints about "average words per chapter" which would probably do the trick for more than one issue.
What I think we need is editors, not writers. I look more at the Wikipedia model: we need people to curate, organize, tag and cleanup stories rather than just people who dump a start and run. I think we need to make more abandoned story threads for editors to get involved in and encourage more people to take that on, rather than just “start something new.”
Nemo of Utopia
CHYOA Guru
Um... We CAN mtM... I do it all the time...
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mindtheMILF
Guest
I know we both do, but how many others adopt that do not do any work on the stories they adopt. I am currently preparing to post some new material within the week on an adopted story that hasn't been touched in years. If someone adopted a story should there be a set amount of work they must do before hand or have a set amount once they do adopt within a time range?
Nemo of Utopia
CHYOA Guru
I would once have said: "Yes, there should," but due to personal experience my answer is now "NO" because if that were the case there are some stories that I have Adopted which would have been taken from me, and forever languish in isolation for lack of a good editor.
I adopted about ten stories at once a few months ago: I was going to update them all within the next week, then I ran out of my medications and was unable to write a single coherent chapter for more than a month. Now that all of the drugs have finally cleared my a system I am rediscovering what I had planned to do with them one by one and updating them at last...
daciasdesire
Really Experienced
Sorry to revive this dead thread but what was this magical 10,000th story? And did we come up with a way to celebrate it?