Standard sexy species

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  1. Arthor Thomarius

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    Recently I asked readers to post what kinds of characters they wanted to see me add to a harem/brothel scene and one poster requested I include a goblin girl.

    This prompted me to ask about the essential features of a goblin. This got me wondering about expectations with regard to fantasy, sci-fi, and horror stories?
    What are the standard tropes and expectations for goblins, orcs, and other creatures ubiquitous to erotic fantasy?
     
  2. TheLowKing

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  3. Impregmaniac

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    Well that's a happy coincidence.

    I've also taken inspiration from Fenoxo's CoC goblin women.

    Key features:
    Short, and is very aware of the difference in partner size
    Proportionally gifted
    A masochistic love of subbing during rough-play
    Single-minded determination of getting their kink satisfied
    Mad-scientist levels of creativity
     
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  4. Arthor Thomarius

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    So, short, thick, and busty. Something like...

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    What about orcs?

    Are there any other species that are fan favorites that have particular characteristics?

    I ask because I am preparing an erotic dungeon punk and I am curious what are the vital tropes and important expectations to navigate?
     
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  5. TheLowKing

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    <3 InCase.

    My Goblins are also thicc shortstacks, with a fetish for (much) larger partners. They are very stretchy. To quote my lore document: "with practice and lubrication, there seems to be almost no limit to how big an object (or member) a Goblin hole can accommodate". They are often xenophobic, which adds to the kink of doing it with a member of another species.

    My Orcs are pretty standard: temperamental, unintelligent (but not stupid), warlike. They tend more to Elder Scrolls Orcs than LotR Orcs: large and muscular, not shrunken and deformed. As for sex, they form life-long bonds, but both sexes love cheating and cuckolding, and Orcs will often do so openly, in front of their mate.
     
  6. Impregmaniac

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    I have no idea why, but my brain is telling me that Dwarf sex would be very private, take hours to days per round, something ceremonial/very kinky/intimate with the beards, and very pro toy use.

    They are extremely xenophobic and mate for life. As such, are very picky in who their partner is because to select a bad one brings risk of ostracization.
     
  7. raziel83

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    Another way to take the dwarfs is that since they are communal and in many settings live in underground cities (where space may not be available much) and might have very casual look at sex. Marital sex is one thing but as long as protection is used (dwarfs ALWAYS have protection with them and dwarf condoms are forged to be impenetrable) casual relationships and sex is OK. "Yeah, Gnorgi Three Hammers is pounding that barmaid over the table, but as long as he doesn't spill anyone's ale, that's fine. The rooms are all taken and and this mine is a small one. Would you rather that they go ON THE SURFACE to fuck? Like some dainty elf who gets claustrophobic? Bah!"


    Or maybe Dwarfs are covert perverts who only seem stuffy to outsiders, but once among their own people (or with Dwarf-Friends) they get freaky. Just don't tell the elves.
     
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  8. Impregmaniac

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    I do enjoy the fact that the Dwarf-Elf rivalry is a thing that no one questions.
     
  9. raziel83

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    Tolkien included Dwarf-Elf rivalry (not outright hate, but certainly disdain on both sides and this is personified in the bickering between Gimli and Legolas, even if they eventually become friends ...and Gimli gets a crush on Galadriel.) so as far as I'm concerned, it belongs in stereotypical fantasy as the basic assumption.


    You could make a setting where no such rivalry exists of course, but having a rivalry needs no excuses.
     
  10. raziel83

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    As for orcs and other porn-species...


    Orcs in Japanese porn art usually fulfill the "ugly bastard" role. Big, fat, ugly brute to rape and humiliate beautiful women. Not my thing, but it seems to have a fandom. There is western porn with more handsome orcs as sthe "ugly bastard" role is more often taken by trolls. Note though that in Japan the orcs are much bigger than in much of Western art.


    Succubi/Incubi and other sexy daemons as well as vampires and werewolves also have a common place in erotic fantasy. The sex daemons can be done in a seductive and alluring way, much like how vampires are often in porn, but werewolves in particular are often more bestial and non-con ways. (I think someone joked that the difference between vampires and werewolves is, do you want to be dominated by sensual and sophisticated dom or taken by a savage and animalistic dom?)
     
  11. bejjinks

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    Tolkien essentially redefined both dwarves and elves. Neither dwarves nor elves were anything like that until Tolkien came along but now his is the word of God on matters of dwarves and elves and the hobbits he completely invented.
     
  12. bejjinks

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    Personally, I would like to see more male fairies. I have to include a caveat though because the rare times people do portray male fairies they are so effeminate that they are practically female fairies. All fairies are small and petite but that doesn't mean they all have to be feminine. Fairies come in a variety the same as all the other species.

    Although small and petite, they make up for their lack of size through powerful magic including the ability to change size and shape to disguise themselves as other species. Their magic is nature based which includes the ability to alter life itself, to cause aging or reverse aging, to control the weather or to transform one life-form into another. They can also fly very fast. They are better at domesticating other animals than humans are and can rally entire armies of animals to come to their aid.

    Sexually, they are playful and mischievous. They generally prefer skimpy outfits and they lack all shyness about touching.
     
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  13. Arthor Thomarius

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    It is funny, but my instinct when it comes to orcs is to make them all hot. Green skinned super models with perfect athletic physiques who make for perfect slaves if you can capture and bind them.
    Otherwise they are ferocious enemies who are like Warhammer Orks if those Da Boyz had sexy bitchez fightin' alongside them in Da Waaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. raziel83

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    Western orcs are sometimes drawn hot. But go take a look at orcs in Japanese art and they look like DnD orcs. And I mean 1st edition DnD pig-humanoids.


    Also, really fat. Because like I said, hentai orcs are for the "ugly bastard" trope for the most parts.
     
  15. Impregmaniac

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    If you want hot beefcake Japanese "orcs", look into Oni. Although technically, those are Ogres.

    On the subject of Japan, a traveler stuck on a snowy mountain during a blizzard, stumbling upon a beautiful young single woman's hut, and her requesting his warmth as compensation for sheltering him, is a prime set up for a Yuki Onna story.
     
  16. Arthor Thomarius

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    It is funny, but my instinct is to make trolls the fat ugly species. I am aware that the Japanese translate oni as ogre, but to my mind ogres are also large, fat, and stupid.

    I am thinking that ogres are a kind of greenskins breed where as trolls are their own thing.

    I reckon, in terms of height, the green skin breeds are as follows.

    Imps are 5-20 inches
    Goblins are 2-5 feet
    Orcs are 5-8 feet
    Ogres are 10-13 feet

    All of them are part plant, part animal, part god-of-savagery-and-barbarism that combine western "sexy" greenskins tropes with some of the features of 40k Orks to have the best of both worlds.
     
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  17. Sthaana

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    Discworld has just so thoroughly coloured my understanding of Dwarfs, that I just can't see them as anything
    other than a race of serious, diligent, sexually non-dimorphic little beardy guys who like gold and have names
    like Glod Stronginthearm and Bjorn Helmclever.

    You can try to make Dwarfs cute or sexy but I'll just be like "Mmm, no, Incorrect"

    Goblins now... I'm all about those freaky shortstacks.
     
  18. Arthor Thomarius

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    I have read all of the same Discworld books and I 100% agree that the idea of "feminine" dwarves is weird. At the absolute minimum, all dwarves, regardless of gender or sex, grow beards. But the standard dwarf is as you describe, when they are interacting with surface dwellers and are living outside of their sacred halls of their cavern cities.

    However, I sort of imagine that among those dwarves who take slaves, it is orthodox behavior to dress and adorn non-dwarves in a non-dwarvish manner.
    Meaning that, should a man find themselves enslaved in a dwarven city, that man will be dressed in the prettiest dresses or the sexiest lingerie. In their own homes, dwarves all present themselves as masculine sexually non-dimorphic while their slaves are forced to present themselves as feminine sexually non-dimorphic.
     
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  19. bejjinks

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    I imagine dwarves a little differently. I can imagine female dwarves but the female dwarves I imagine are chunky, hard tanks just like their husbands. Other than a few small differences like a lack of beard, I imagine that it's hard to tell the difference between a dwarf male and a dwarf female. I can just imagine a dwarf female slamming a plate on the table and the only word she says is, "EAT".
     
  20. Arthor Thomarius

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    Tolkien and Pratchett both write dwarves as having beards regardless of gender. Pratchett goes really deep into this with his dwarves with one dwarf in particular's main struggle as a character has to do with gender identity in a culture that frowns on sexual di-morphism.

    https://discworld.fandom.com/wiki/Cheery_Littlebottom