7 Days of Incest Brainstorm Thread

Discussion in 'Story Ideas' started by Durzan, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    7 Days of Incest

    POV: 2nd Person
    Gender: Male
    Category: Non-Con/Incest/BDSM (Not sure which one is most appropriate)
    Mode: Moderated or Public (Possibly)
    Scoreboard Enabled
    Customization Enabled
    (Possibly an End Goal)
    Conditional Branches Enabled (End Goal)
    Invisible Choices Enabled

    Premise:
    You are the eldest child and the only son in your family. You have 3 (or more) pretty little sisters:
    • One (the youngest) is an athletic loli who is surprisingly innocent and relatively clueless, especially with regards to sex. She acts far more childish than what you would expect for a girl who recently turned 18.
    • One (a middle sibling) whom is sassy and rebellious on the surface, yet emotionally vulnerable underneath.
    • One (the eldest daughter) whom is extremely hot and popular at school, yet is reclusive. She has a slight streak of a tomboy attitude and enjoys playing video games. You get along with her fairly well.
    (You may have more female siblings or cousins that can be added into the story, but these three sisters are the archetypes that need to be satisfied in order for the story to work. And obviously, they all are 18+.) You can handle each of them (and anyone else involved) one at a time, but when they are all together it drives you crazy. To make matters worse (or better, from the reader's POV), you have been single for a while, and its all you can do to prevent yourself from humping one of them.

    However, everything comes to a head when you come home to find that your parents have left to go on a cruise (Either for a three-day weekend, or for an entire week), leaving you in charge of the house, and keeping an eye on your sisters. Stuck in this house with them, your urge to plow them has finally reached its peak. Now, how will you do it? Will you deceive or manipulate them into being banged? Blackmail them? Dominate them?

    Goal: Earn points by sucking, fucking, and plowing your way through the weekend until your parents come home or you, with up to 3 (or 7) days of sexy times. Unlock hidden branches by experimentation and earn higher scores. But be warned, There are many paths this story could take and many ways it could end, but not all of them pleasant (or good)... so be careful about how, when, and where you make your move. The choices you make, will affect how each sister views you, and may or may not add extra people to your harem. If you are lucky, you will successfully seduce or dominate all your sisters. The more sisters (and additional people) in your harem at the end of the game, the higher your score.

    Note: This concept is based on a similar premise from another CYOA type site that was abandoned years ago. I have taken the liberties to boil it down to its basics, so that it can be adapted in a more original fashion and fit the rules of the CHYOA.

    The original story was called "Three Sisters" and its author was named Tapdancingfish.

    Questions

    So, now that you know the idea... who's interested in the concept? I could use some help refining the idea a bit more. What would be a good title for this story? What category best suits this concept? Any suggestions? I'm trying to flesh this out a bit before I start up the draft.

    So, any thoughts, comments or suggestions?
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2019
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  2. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    Looks to me like you already have a pretty good idea what you want to do and how you're going to get there. There would be little for me to add.

    Maybe a mechanic in which each of the sisters has an opinion of you represented by a number between -100 and 100. Whatever action you perform makes the number go up or down. The higher her opinion of you, the more likely she'll willingly have sex with you. When the number reachest -100 she'll call the cops on you.
     
  3. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Not a bad idea for a mechanic. Will consider using it.

    The problem isn't so much with the general concept, its brainstorming specifics and scenario ideas for the overall story, individual chapters, etc. Like, for instance, I still have no idea what the story title will be yet. Also, I haven't made up my mind on how many sisters there should be (Currently leaning towards 3 days or 1 week), how long the parent's vacation will last, or if I should add some female cousins or friends of the sisters to the mix later on in the story.

    Also, not sure which category I should put, as I can only officially list it under one. Is the incest category more prevalent or the non-con category?
     
  4. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    For adding more girls, i'd go for a few cousins or friends. Maybe one of his sister's BFF's could have a crush on him. If you want to go the blackmail route, you have have a sister be a lesbian and the main character secretly makes a video of her and her friend having sex.

    I would put it under incest category. I personaly prefer consensual, so would like to see the main character be nice to his sisters and seduce them instead of force them. But that is just me. still, it's got a focus on brother-sister relations, so it's got more of an incest focus.
     
  5. Hvast

    Hvast Really Really Experienced

    It should go to incest and I agree with the poster above, option for non-jerk route would be nice to have

    As for game mechanics I'd consider several stats for sisters\other females

    Something like

    Love 0/100 - 100/100
    Trust 0/100 - 100/100
    Lust 0/100 - 100/100
    Fear 0/100 - 100/100
    Respect 0/100 - 100/100
    Obedience 0/100 - 100/100

    To make it possible to conquer females in different ways. On other hand this may be too complex.
     
  6. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    i would simplify that by putting it all on the same -100 to +100 scale.

    obedience is between -100 and -51
    fear goes between -50 and 0
    respect for 0 to 49
    trust for 50 to 99
    love for 100
     
  7. Kore

    Kore Experienced

    I'd second Incest as category.
    If the reader won't have a chance to finish the story without making non-consent decisions, I would add a non-consent warning at the beginning of the story as both themes might gross out readers, even if they aren't combined.

    With game mode, having three sisters seems already like a quite broad concept, so I couldn't imagine even more female characters.
    The task to keep an eye on his sisters might include him being forced to stay with his sisters all the time which could reduce the possibilities and make the concept feasible.

    The title might come more obvious after refining the concept.

    If you use stats from 0 to 100, you could use variables of type progress which can't be lower than 0 and not higher than 100. If — for any reasons — the character fucked up or mastered a relationship stat, later decisions which change the variable in the other direction would still affect the game. Otherwise, if the character got a stat of 150, he could do a lot of negative things without noticing any negative outcome. (If you want to go for plus and minus, I'd use numerical variables and scale all numbers up by factor 1,000 (numerical variables have a cap at +100,000 and -100,000))
    Fewer variables are much easier to handle. If you have a decision which depends on 3 variables with only 3 different "levels" each, you would need 27 chapters to offer all possible options.
     
  8. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    My current plan is to get the first couple of pages written, then go back and start adding variables.

    Working title for the story is 7 Days of Incest.
     
  9. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    I believe you're thinking that the main character needs to do all the girls in the 7 days. If so, it would be a hell of a task. Instead, i feel it is better to simply make it obvious to the reader he can't do all and simply has to pick 1 or 2. That way it doesn't really matter how many girls there are. 3 sisters + a cousin and 2 friends = 6 girls where he can pick 1 to romance and convince to be his girlfriend. That whould be enough for a basic story idea. As a result, that would give the game replayability and go through it 6 times. Once for each girl.

    After the story is complete you can then do an expansion and offer an option on the 7th day that the paren'ts cruise crashes or something and they are stuck for an extra week. Giving him an extra week to seduce more girls.
     
  10. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    First two chapters are out.

    Still willing to discuss and brainstorm.
     
  11. Kore

    Kore Experienced

    Well, no.
    If you want to allow building up relationships with the characters, you need several decisions to determine the relationship with every character. So no matter if the character plans to lay them or not, he must make the decisions.
    The more stat variables you want to use, the more complex it becomes and the more chapters you will need for simply building the relationships. With "maybe" additional characters, it becomes more complicated as you might have additional scenes with the additional character which might be easy but also group scenes with one or more sisters and an additional character.

    I'm drafting around with an incest game story (starting rather innocent and being mainly consensual, though that might depend on the reader's decision) for a while and plan to use 2 variables to track the relationship of the female.
    The male MC (reader) will follow a rather set way through the story. He might be able to skip some scenes and have some branching out but the general course of action should always be the same. That makes it much more manageable and should still allow replaying as the decisions will form the relationship and allow for a completely different story.

    Even if you don't want to do it now, I'd recommend thinking about the structure early as it might become much more difficult to add that later.
     
  12. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    for the story 'a bird in the hand' i've written a story arc where the main character is a demonologist which captured a nunnery and is trying to corrupt the nuns there entirely consensually. I started by writing up to 14 chapters in a word document before posting the fiorst one on CHYOA. Good thing too because in chapter 4 i discovered i forgot to describe something in chapter 2 then at chapter 7 i wanted to add something for which i had to change something in chapter 1, and so forth. For me it generally helps if i have a skeleton of the story planned out ahead of time. That way I know where i'm heading and if necessary, i can always embellish beyond what i planned originally.
     
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  13. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Update... been adding some chapters a couple at a time per day. I got a decent outline of where to go... at least for Day 0. Some content I will be pushing back to Saturday, just to keep it short. Day 0 is supposed to be a sort of a "tutorial" day... introducing all three sisters, giving the player a chance to figure out the basic mechanics of the game, and so forth.

    As it stands I have 7 main variables, 6 of which will affect the story going forward:
    • Score: This is how many points you earn on a single play through. You want to get this as high as you can. You earn points by having sexy times with your sisters, though you will earn extra points by successfully breaking them in (through domination, seducing, tricking, wooing/romancing, etc).
    • Confidence: Your primary currency for the game, represented as a percentage. Confidence represents how bold your character is at any given moment of the story, and will fluctuate throughout the story. Some choices require you to have a certain level of confidence before they show up. Some choices will give you additional confidence, while other choices (such as risky/suspicious actions, or actions that would boost other stats) will drain some of your confidence.
    • Dominance: Dominance represents how much presence you command among those who know you. A high authority means that your sisters and others are more likely to listen you, respect you, and/or do what you say.
    • Cunning: Cunning represents your underlying ability to be devious. Exceptionally devious or deceitful actions require a high cunning to perform.
    • Suspicion: Suspicion represents how much attention your recent actions and behavior have been drawing. A high suspicion can result in a game over.
    • Opinions: Each of the sisters (and any other characters that you will have the potential to bang) has a hidden opinion on you. The higher the score, the more willing they are to have sex with you.
    To keep things simple, there will be regular converging points in the story. As far as keeping track of shit you did in previous days, I'm still working that part out.
     
  14. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Still up for discussing ideas and brainstorming, or taking suggestions.
     
  15. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    i was wondering why rose apperently seems to like being taken like that in your chapters. Is she secretly a submissive? But then her opinion goes down when taken in the ass. what's that all about. And what ebout the other sisters. Do they also have secret fetishes?
     
  16. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Side note: the opinion ratings are supposed to be hidden from the player, so if its visible its a mistake on my part. Will try and get it fixed. Anyway, moving on.

    I was working on a very long response to you, but decided to try and short it.

    Regarding the seeming discrepancies between the two sex scenes in question:
    1. Rose starts out in Black Hipsters sub-branch the same way she starts out in all the sex scenes that have been posted so far: In a state of mixed emotions with confusion, surprise, and fear at the forefront. The reason Rose seems to like being taken in the black hipsters sub-branch essentially boils down to the circumstances of the situation allowing her to becoming quickly aroused in the heat of the moment, and her instincts taking over shortly after she loses her her virginity. Essentially her inexperience with sex is what causes it... her mind is initially going "NO, WHY?" but after being turned on, her body (once turned on) is like "FUCK IT; WE'RE ALREADY HERE, MIGHT AS WELL ENJOY BREEDING" and then the rest of the session becomes a sex-filled haze for her. IE thats when she start's liking it. Either that or she just says "fuck it, I'mma gonna enjoy my first time whether you want me to or not." I would be willing to bet that once the effect of that haze fully wears off, she'll have a miniature "OMG what have I done, why the hell did I like it" moment.
    2. The reason why Rose's opinion of you drops significantly if you take her up the ass while she's wearing leggings is quite simple: Anal sex quite often fucking hurts, even with lube, and when you are fully relaxed. And guess what? Jake played the "Surprise Butt-Sex" card on her, without lube, without consent, and with little to know indication (on her end of it) that he was interested in getting down and sexy with her. So she's instinctively tensing up (which makes the pain worse), and he's forcing himself into her without lube (which makes the pain worse), or apparent regard for her safety. That's gonna hurt like fucking hell, and during that time her opinion of Jake is gonna be pretty low. Yeah sure, you can get aroused from butt-sex due to pressure on the prostate/G-Spot, but it wouldn't numb the pain, and the pain will work against her at all times, potentially nagging and preventing her from enjoying it for a lot longer than vaginal sex will (cause ya know, your body just isn't equipped for naturally lubricating your asshole for penetration, unlike a vagina). Of course, thats before Jake does anything to help her enjoy herself (if at all).
    3. In general, any form of non-con sex will result in the lowering of a girl's opinion of you, IF you are caught or the subject is aware of it (and you don't get a game over). So lets say, Nichole, catches you stuffing your dick up Rose's butt while she is asleep, then even if she doesn't call the cops on you, Nichole's opinion of you will lower. If you stick your cock up Rose's butt and she doesn't want you to do so, then her opinion will lower. And of course if anyone else sees it, then their opinion also lowers. However, getting the girl you are having sex with to like it allows you to reduce the loss of opinion, or might even cause it to raise temporarily.
    Okay, I believe that answers the underlying questions you had... so, lets look at your question about the fetishes of the sisters.

    Does Rose have a fetish? Is she secretly a submissive?

    Well... some fetishes can be learned or developed. Its possible that Rose has a more submissive side to her, but that touches more on her psychology of her character than the sexual aspect. If I were to take a guess, If Rose doesn't already have a fetish, then she could easily develop one. She definitely has a predisposition towards exhibitionism (at least to some degree) due to her circumstances, and possibly for submissiveness as well due to her inner vulnerability as well.

    To put it briefly, Rose is a middle child and the younger of a pair of fraternal twins. As such, she probably has dealt with some kind of personal identity crisis, and is seeking to define and figure out just who she is. As a twin, she would be constantly compared to her elder sister, and as a middle child, she wouldn't necessarily receive the attention that she needs to develop and build her own self-esteem. As a result, Rose becomes rebellious and passive aggressive in an attempt to both redefine herself on her own terms, and as a way of getting some attention... any attention. Remember how Jake notes how she seems to constantly do things to provoke him? Thats her way of crying for help and attention. This craving for attention is essentially what exhibitionism is. As far as her submissiveness is, that comes into play when you realize that someone such as Rose has self-esteem issues. On the inside she's soft, vulnerable, and needs attention... but because she's had to rebel to get that attention and probably has been bullied in school because of it (emos and goths are often bullied, and she does display some of the standard traits of them), she has turned that rebellious and punk-attitude into a emotional barrier or shield to protect herself. As a result, she becomes a Tsundre, acting strong and dominant when her mental defenses are up, and reserved or submissive when her vulnerabilities are exposed.

    If you want to frame that as a secret fetish, go ahead. But I don't think of it strictly speaking in that manner.

    Do the other sisters have secret fetishes as well?

    Each of the sisters have their own issues, and those issues could easily lead to the development of a fetish of some form or another. Its still in the air, as I tend to shoot from the hip quite a bit.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2019
  17. reaper13

    reaper13 Experienced

    Looks like you put a lot of thought in rose's character. You're right, her thing has got more to do with psychology than a fetish. The reason i asked is because in one of the stories i'm writing (the one with the nuins being corrupted) i've introduced a she-devil who wants to be dominated, but only by a man who can handle her. So she act all dominant untill one of her peers shows her she's not his boss, but the other way around.

    Without all this information on Rose's character, it seemed to me like she had a similar 'dominant untill dominated' thing going on.
     
  18. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Wrote up a rough introduction to Bayley last night; posted it this morning.

    Continued to flesh out Bayley's character and initial relationship with Jake in two additional chapters. Since this line is currently going to be the main way the story progresses forward (all other lines that branched off from dealing with Rose will either end in a game over or will merge back into the Visit the Office branch in some way) it currently has priority.
     
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  19. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Finally got around towards adding a few chapters that can work towards getting some food in Jake's belly. Also, it furthers some interesting sexy times with Bayley, Rose, and/or Nichole. Bayley's Day 0 route is currently supposed to take place during a Fast Food run, but if you want me to wing it, I can figure something else out.

    Any questions or suggestions?
     
  20. Durzan

    Durzan Really Experienced

    Reworked the order of some of the more initial chapters, and deleted a short sub-route that doesn't really do much long term. The less sub-routes I have to deal with, the easier it will be to join them all and compensate for it in the end.