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Almax said:
For "Sexual Orientation", would something like "assorted" be alright?
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That would be kind of a misc category.

Almax said:
So, yea -- I think, for this category only, it might make sense to have it be tickboxes instead of radio buttons.
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Not sure if that would be good in terms of implementation.

Almax said:
there are lots of stories that feature equal parts F&M and F&F without ever really dipping into M&M, for whatever reason
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I think that is a very important point.

Is FFM with FF straight or bi?

From my experience:
FFM with FF -> Most men would like it while a lot of women would dislike it.
MMF with MM -> Most women wouldn't mind while a lot of men would dislike it.

And I could imagine that a good share of Lesbians wouldn't like FFM content.


If the concept of two branches diverges so much from each other, I think it might be better to start another story and "advertise" them with a link in the introduction. Otherwise, you rather get a story collection story.


Changes:
- added Male Bi
- added Female Bi

Do they make sense like that?
Don't most "Straight" stories feature some amount of Female Bi?
 
Almax said:
I getcha, but I think that "Contemporary Fantasy" still evokes more images of a slightly-up-to-date fantasy world than "Modern Fantasy", just because it's used a lot less as a word than Modern. So out of a choice of the two, I think Contemporary edges it over just for clarity, despite being pretty much exact synonyms (you can figure out what "Contemporary Fantasy" means without many question marks, I feel).
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insertnamehere said:
Contemporary is by definition about the present, and is usually used in the context of the real world. 'Historical Contemporary' and 'Contemporary Fantasy' are both contradictory.
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I looked up the historical time periods and it says "Modern Age" for the time since 1453. That's also about the time when firearms became a thing.


Changes:
- added the name option "Modern Age" to "Contemporary"
- added the name option "Modern Age Fantasy" to "Contemporary Fantasy"

Would that fit better?
 
I think adding a "Bi" preface is actually a really good solution, yeah! That solves the lot of it, since it's then dependant on the main character and leaves room for pretty much all outcomes. I think most stories featuring some amount of going both ways is probably true, but this is a really nice solution for the stories that are basically equal parts either way.

I'm also all about that contemporary change, but that's still just a personal thing of thinking it fits better and seeing that the two options were a sort of unanswered question so far, with both options up in the air. So no real heavy pressure on that one!
 
gene.sis said:
I looked up the historical time periods and it says "Modern Age" for the time since 1453. That's also about the time when firearms became a thing.


Changes:
- added the name option "Modern Age" to "Contemporary"
- added the name option "Modern Age Fantasy" to "Contemporary Fantasy"

Would that fit better?
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That sounds right. I find firearms are a surprisingly good benchmark.
 
gene.sis said:
That would be kind of a misc category.



From my experience:
FFM with FF -> Most men would like it while a lot of women would dislike it.
MMF with MM -> Most women wouldn't mind while a lot of men would dislike it.
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What are you basing this on?

That's a very broad generalisation of stereotypes.
 
Almax said:
I'm also all about that contemporary change, but that's still just a personal thing of thinking it fits better and seeing that the two options were a sort of unanswered question so far, with both options up in the air. So no real heavy pressure on that one!
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insertnamehere said:
That sounds right. I find firearms are a surprisingly good benchmark.
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Changes:
- removed Contemporary Fantasy and Modern Fantasy from Modern Age Fantasy
- adjusted the definition of Modern Age Fantasy
- adjusted the definition of Classical Fantasy
 
I'm still not sure about Classical Fantasy, especially since I've noticed that Classical refers to Greek and Roman times.

For Modern Age / Contemporary, maybe something like "Real World" would be better.
 
gene.sis said:
Exactly.


From statements and reactions of heterosexual friends and partners.
This, of course, comes with all the flaws of picking up other people's opinions.
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I can see why you'd come to that conclusion, to a certain degree we can only follow our own experience. I'd offer though that it's not that simple, especially on a site such as CHYOA with a wide variety of Fetish preferences. I'm just one example of a heterosexual man who writes and enjoys MMF as much as FFM, I'm sure I'm not alone. MMF/FFM is not necessarily about gender/sexuality preferences, there's power dynamics and all sorts going on here. For example, MMF does not automatically suggest homosexuality. 'Most women prefer MMF' - a hell of a lot of straight women have FFM liaisons without any aspect of lesbianism.
This is not a criticism by the way! Just exploring your statement and what it means to the proposed changes.
 
Dansak said:
'Most women prefer MMF'
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Just for the record: I didn't say that.

Dansak said:
MMF/FFM is not necessarily about gender/sexuality preferences, there's power dynamics and all sorts going on here.
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Dansak said:
For example, MMF does not automatically suggest homosexuality.
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That's right.
But the MM in
gene.sis said:
MMF with MM
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means homosexuality. (See my remarks about homosexuality at the end.)

MMF can be
M-F-M or
M-M-F or
F1-M1-M2-F1

Dansak said:
a hell of a lot of straight women have FFM liaisons without any aspect of lesbianism.
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It's pretty interesting that you are naming women here and I could imagine you've done it for a reason.
And that is basically the same as I expressed in the exact wording of the two statements.
-> It's more common for women as there is more social acceptance.

I also think this is some kind of discrimination because of history.

Polyamory with one man and more (straight) women is a concept that is rather accepted.
But it is rather unheard of relationships with one woman and more (straight) men.


Dansak said:
Just exploring your statement and what it means to the proposed changes.
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I used the phrase "Sexual Orientation" with only having "sexual attraction" in mind.
For me, that is very different from "romantic attraction."

And so...
Dansak said:
I'm just one example of a heterosexual man who writes and enjoys MMF as much as FFM, I'm sure I'm not alone.
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... I could imagine having sex with someone of the same sex but I can't at all imagine having a same-sex relationship.

So I would further use the term "homosexual" for sexual attraction and "lesbian/gay" for romantic attraction.
I also think that calling a gay man a homosexual is derogative as it reduces him to his sexuality.


So I think that sexual orientation should focus on sexual attraction and not romantic attraction.
 
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Changes:
- split "BDSM" into "BDSM (Maledom)" and "BDSM (Femdom)"
- added definition to "BDSM (Maledom)" and "BDSM (Femdom)"
 
Dimension: Characters / Involved Groups of Persons
  • Interacial / BBC
  • Coworker / Boss
  • Transgender
  • Couple
Dimension: Theme / Fetish
  • Non consent : Rape / Blackmail / Hypnosis / mind control
  • Slutification / Bimbofication
  • Crossdressing / Forced Feminization / Sissy / Transformation (Magical ?) : M2F / F2M
 
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