And a vagina. They have both usually.
Fetish matrix squares that go unfilled.
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Pasin
Really Experienced
Who cares about a dickgirl's vagina?
Yurisenpai
Experienced
A dickgirl that want sex with another dickgirl and they have their dicks and vaginas locked in 69 position so it's double pleasure for both dickgirls.
You can also add more dickgirls, on each side and let's get their vaginas eated in same time as their dick is blowjobed by another dickgirl in another 69 position.
You can continues with adding dickgirls and make perfect circle.
With these rules how many dickgirls you need to make it ? And you can't left any vagina or dick unused.
Sthaana
Really Experienced
Once you earn over ten million dollars, you cease to be a real person.
This is actually true, I'm not making it up.
Yurisenpai
Experienced
raziel83
Really Really Experienced
In my country at least, celebreties legally have less rights to privacy. Not in the "people can peep at them in the shower" kinda way (though someone would probably write an erotic voyerism story about that) but in the way that normal people can expect not to get photographed or reported in articles with their names mentioned, where celebs have to accept that they themselves have made themselves public persons and media can report about them.
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Cuchuilain
Guest
Makes sense I guess.
I've always been a bit nervous though about suggesting that I might have fucked someone, say, who's name rhymes with Dim Dardashian. Partially because I'm assuming that they could afford better lawyers than me!
I've always been a bit nervous though about suggesting that I might have fucked someone, say, who's name rhymes with Dim Dardashian. Partially because I'm assuming that they could afford better lawyers than me!
Dissonant Soundtrack
Really Really Experienced
What rule are you talking about? As long as you're not doxxing them I think it would be ok by the site's rules (albeit readers might find it weird)
Yurisenpai
Experienced
I think that as long you don't write sex stalker scene about your real-life next-door milf neighbour and use her real name and name of town where you live, it's not against any rules.
raziel83
Really Really Experienced
If you describe the appearance and first name of a real person, the chances of them stumbling onto the site and finding a story with them as a character is not particularly high. If you use their full name, then "Jane Doe" might google herself and finding CHYOA as one of the results would be really weird. Not sure where the doxxing limits go, but I'd avoid using real full names mainly because of the chances of someone (or their prospective employer) googling them.
Alibara
Really Experienced
What if it turns out there is someone out there called Arsene Lupin, Victoria Frankenstein, Dorian/Doreen Gray or Abigail van Helsing?
insertnamehere
Really Really Experienced
The issue is more with writing about real events rather than real people. If you were to write a detailed recount of a time you hooked up with someone, that would be problematic. Giving a real person's full name, address, contact details etc. could be considered doxxing as well, regardless of whether they are depicted in an erotic context.
However, if your ginger neighbour Laura is a mother of three, and you choose to write an erotic story about some incel having sex with his ginger neighbour Laura who is a mother of three, that doesn't really violate any rule. The average CHYOA story does not go deep enough into characterisation, intrinsic or extrinsic, to reasonably match a real person; there are probably multiple gingers called Laura with three kids somewhere in the world. Additionally, the author's fantasy is unlikely to be an accurate reflection of reality: you probably have no idea what they look like naked or how they behave during sex, and they would likely never even consider half of the actions you describe them doing (not least the "impulsively agreeing to fool around with a stranger" premise that drives many stories).
However, if your ginger neighbour Laura is a mother of three, and you choose to write an erotic story about some incel having sex with his ginger neighbour Laura who is a mother of three, that doesn't really violate any rule. The average CHYOA story does not go deep enough into characterisation, intrinsic or extrinsic, to reasonably match a real person; there are probably multiple gingers called Laura with three kids somewhere in the world. Additionally, the author's fantasy is unlikely to be an accurate reflection of reality: you probably have no idea what they look like naked or how they behave during sex, and they would likely never even consider half of the actions you describe them doing (not least the "impulsively agreeing to fool around with a stranger" premise that drives many stories).
JWtts
Really Experienced
I think with celebrities we associate a god/goddess-like status upon them much the same as we do comic book characters or other fandom characters. Yes, they are real people, but as a society we've built them up to be beyond human. They are our modern Greek gods. We wish we could be in their presence, delight in their triumphs, and disgustingly revel in their defeats. They are flawed, but perceived to be "perfect" or at least greater than us mortals. Sports fans wear copies of athlete's work clothes (jerseys), but no celebrity or athlete is dressing up like Steve the accountant or Sarah the doctor to be like, "Yeah, go Sarah! She's the GOAT!"
Bringing it back to erotica, no one really cares about Laura, your MILF neighbor, because she's essentially no one to the rest of us who don't know her, so whether she's your real neighbor or a made up character, it doesn't matter as much to the reader as it does the writer. But Laura the celebrity is someone we can all picture. We've seen her body of work and likely a lot of her actual body. She's not attainable (though one could argue if Laura the MILF neighbor is attainable but she is next-door and likely within your socioeconomic sphere), so a story about Celebrity Laura is fantastical, much like a fictional character, and we dismiss that she's human and someone else's neighbor, friend, sister, mother, etc.
Plus, often what we know of celebrities is much like the aforementioned Greek stories or fictional characters, a crafted narrative or persona. Even if we read their biography and watch every interview, none of us really know that person. Yet we all feel we do to some degree, at least to the point of being able to easily immerse ourselves into a story (erotic or not) about them and not have to delve too deep into characterization or physical description.
Bringing it back to erotica, no one really cares about Laura, your MILF neighbor, because she's essentially no one to the rest of us who don't know her, so whether she's your real neighbor or a made up character, it doesn't matter as much to the reader as it does the writer. But Laura the celebrity is someone we can all picture. We've seen her body of work and likely a lot of her actual body. She's not attainable (though one could argue if Laura the MILF neighbor is attainable but she is next-door and likely within your socioeconomic sphere), so a story about Celebrity Laura is fantastical, much like a fictional character, and we dismiss that she's human and someone else's neighbor, friend, sister, mother, etc.
Plus, often what we know of celebrities is much like the aforementioned Greek stories or fictional characters, a crafted narrative or persona. Even if we read their biography and watch every interview, none of us really know that person. Yet we all feel we do to some degree, at least to the point of being able to easily immerse ourselves into a story (erotic or not) about them and not have to delve too deep into characterization or physical description.
I personally still feel a little weirded out by celebrity fiction because they are ultimately still a real person. It's even worse if it's non-con. How would you feel if people were writings stories about you being brutally raped?
On that note, why does CelebMaster69 make a billion stories with the exact same premise?
On that note, why does CelebMaster69 make a billion stories with the exact same premise?
SeriousBrainDamage
Really Really Experienced
This name surely checks out,
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Cuchuilain
Guest
I wonder if we should have an equivalent to the Harkness rule when deciding whether its ok to write about celebrities, or whether people are indeed celebrities. I mean some of the more attractive people I can think of from the small screen might be provincial weather reporters or former girl band members who may never have been quite at the top of he charts in the first place, or people on reality programs. None of them would come close to passing Sthaana's test above. Is that it? $10 million earnings? Or maybe someone who has been on a primetime major channel chat show?
raziel83
Really Really Experienced
Hm...
It is easy enough to say in some cases but drawing a precise line is not easy. For example, I think we could all agree that a president is a celebrity that we could feature in a story, but I would not think that a random municipal level council member would count even though they are a politician. Safe bets are easy enough at least, pick any A class Hollywood actor and no one will bat an eye if they see them in a porn fic about someone getting it on with celebs, but if you place some no name actor that readers will not recognize, then we are on a grey area.
It is easy enough to say in some cases but drawing a precise line is not easy. For example, I think we could all agree that a president is a celebrity that we could feature in a story, but I would not think that a random municipal level council member would count even though they are a politician. Safe bets are easy enough at least, pick any A class Hollywood actor and no one will bat an eye if they see them in a porn fic about someone getting it on with celebs, but if you place some no name actor that readers will not recognize, then we are on a grey area.
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Cuchuilain
Guest
Maybe we should have a separate thread with a ist of celebrities who are acceptable to be fucked with, possibly broken down into categories, film stars, pop stars, TV, etc with a group veto on anyone who may be considered inappropriate.
In a strange way quite a few on the fringes might be hoping to be successful enough to make it onto the CHYOA list in order to know when they've finally made it!
"Yes! I've finally arrived. My latest single took me so far up the charts that people on CHYOA can write chapters about my ass."
In a strange way quite a few on the fringes might be hoping to be successful enough to make it onto the CHYOA list in order to know when they've finally made it!
"Yes! I've finally arrived. My latest single took me so far up the charts that people on CHYOA can write chapters about my ass."
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Cuchuilain
Guest
Interestingly, the UK's ASA has defined being a celebrity as someone who has in excess of 30K social media followers. That might be a useful rule of thumb.
SeriousBrainDamage
Really Really Experienced
I'm not entirely sure this would do any good.
There would be still tons of those kinds of stories we're all thinking about.
Self-insert rapist Average Joe snaps out and decides to drug/ kidnap/ blackmail( or something like that...) famous person Dim Dardashian and then proceeds to do to her whatever comes to his mind.
Let's admit it: it is a little creepy.
On the other hand, would anyone have anything to object to a story where Average Joe stumbles into Mrs. Dardashian in a cafè and after some small talk they develop a wholesome relationship full of kinky sex?
No drugged coffè, just some silly pick-up lines.