AI?

AI?

  • no

    Votes: 8 57.1%

  • grammar check

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • yes, if well edited

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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Sathurn

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I have read the rules, and is AI writing allowed?

I am a lousy writer. But I have played around with both ChatGPT and Copilot. That is a game in itself, trying to keep the AI on track.

But it creates a much better story than I am capable of writing alone. So, my question stands? Would I be blasted for trying to curate {or maybe co write) an AI story. Because I know I can't write a readable story without.
 
It is allowed. Whether readers will like it is another matter, but if this is how you want to write, then go forth!
 
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I think as long as you (a sentient person) make to sure to properly curate and improve upon the soulless splatters your LLM of choice shits out, you'll be pretty well set.

Since you aren't actively typing out the first draft, you can go through it with a better 'reader-like' perspective than most other authors, which means you can ask yourself the simple question of "Would I read this myself?" From there, you can change whatever doesn't hit the beats you need it too, and by the end, you'll have written about half the chapter yourself.:p

Also, I wouldn't be so hard on yourself. You'd be suprised how much tougher you are on yourself then everyone else will be.
 
I hate this approach... "AI is a better writer than me..." saddens me. Some people I know abandoned writing because of it.

No, it is fucking not. It may be better in certain secondary aspects. Speed (definitely), Grammar, Vocabulary (sometimes). And it makes it a good assistant. But it is worse in every aspect of what writing truly is. Plot. Story. Consistency. Characters. Unique style. And other "minor" things. No, it can't create a much better story than you can. And it won't be capable of that unless we create some piece of software that is actually a person.
 
Seconding Hvast's post. You are better than you think you are and even if you aren't, so what?

Don't automate the fun creative part of writing just so you can skip to the boring editing and revisions.

Post your weird grammatically baffling story, I guarantee no one is here to grade your work or make you feel bad about typos.
 
Ethical issues aside, I think ai can be a decent enough tool as a writing/brainstorming assistant. I think.
I’d say 100% of the time you’ll get better results bouncing ideas off an actual person.
Again side-stepping ethics for a moment I tend to lean towards live and let live, let people do whatever funky robot work they want if it makes them happy.
Personally I cannot stand the “voice” that pretty much every ai I’ve seen has, it’s obnoxious and gross and fake-chipper. But that is completely just my opinion, and if it’s something you wanna explore, go for it! There are a lot of people using ai in much worse ways! But I would echo what the others say: your writing will always be better than you think. I’d be surprised if there was a single person on this site - and a lot of them are really talented - who didn’t at some point look at what they’d written and go “man this sucks”.
And 99% of the time they were dead wrong.
 
I dislike the modern "AI" in any form, but this site allows it.


However I do admit that using AI as a writing assistant (as in, you make it give you input on your text or to give you alternative options) is one of the few things that AI can decently do. You still wouldn't want it to write the whole text, because often you have to proofread and fix whatever it gives you.
 
raziel83 said:
However I do admit that using AI as a writing assistant (as in, you make it give you input on your text or to give you alternative options) is one of the few things that AI can decently do. You still wouldn't want it to write the whole text, because often you have to proofread and fix whatever it gives you.
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This is exactly how I started. First I was led by the LLM, then I started having ideas of my own and tried to coerce it into that direction, then I just wrote my own higher level plot with the LLM filling in descriptions and such, and finally I just did it all on my own. So I'm not one of those Thou Shalt Never Use LLMs On Pain Of Death people, though I do agree that if you want to be a writer, the whole point is that it's you doing the writing. If you're not doing that, then you're just a conduit for the Machine. Which is fine, you do you, but it's not writing.

Nowadays I only use LLMs very rarely, usually when I need, say, a couple of descriptors of a character, or two lines of "the sex continues", and I'm briefly stumped myself. Even then, I find that I often have to reroll its output 10+ times before I get something halfway decent: 4 words from response 7, 3 from response 2, 4 from response 11, 5 of my own, OK, good enough, move on.
 
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Thankyou for your responses. I expected a little hostility against AI and I understand. I thankyou for your kind words towards me though. And I agree I have played around with AI enough to know it just sound smart but is really dumb. But for a paragraph or two it sure does look good.
 
The main problem with AI, ethical issues aside, is that studies have shown that frequent AI usage is linked to low capacity for critical thinking and creative writing. Now, correlation does not equal causation, but the relationship should still give room for pause.
 
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