At the Cabin

A good sequel which is it's own story could easily have seperate threads from the main thread with different pairings depending on where the writer wants to take it. For instance, have a seperate story thread where everyone gave into an orgy and focus on the after effects while telling the story here in this story.

I've also thought about spin offs featuring a beach and a ski resort, but muse hasn't really fired back up recently.

On that note, I'm trying to look for a few ways to help along a Victoria/Zack/Chloe threesome pairing. I've been seeing some good ideas in other threads, but I can't seem to think of any other ideas to get my muse going.

One final note, I'm really enjoying where Vain is taking his ideas. I especially like their bringing in this site into the story and making it a plot point. I'm hoping to maybe borrow the idea, but I don't want them to feel like I'm plagiarizing their idea.
 
duskford said:
Regarding a Zack/Ashley story where she would be the main girl, it could be interesting because surely it would be the one with the most drama. I don't know if Yarkoz plans on making Ashley leave Brandon for Zack in his thread, but the idea is there if you or someone else wants to do it.
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I've thought about it, and the consequences would certainly be vast. If Zack and Ashley can't contain their attraction to one another, I've thought about Victoria finding out about it and going over to Gavin given what I've written in another thread, and what cr3mp13 has wonderfully added onto. Effectively though, it would destroy much of the relationships they currently have, and I'm not sure if I want to be that drastic. I've also thought about having her convince Brandon into a threesome with Zack, or even a foursome with Zack and Victoria, since several of us (certainly Vain and you, duskford) have instilled a very kinky side to Ashley.

2p1k3, I encourage you to expand your idea and add it. Even though I've envisioned Ashley to be on birth control, their encounter was reckless since he did cum inside of her. Also, I think accidental incest might be the best way to introduce it to the story, I encourage you to expand that idea as well.
 
Another idea for introducing incest would be one that I'm considering adding on one of my storylines. The idea would consist of developing some sort of attraction between Taylor and Zack's main girl (in this case it would work best if it was Heather) and have Zack catch them in a sexy situation, them he would be so aroused at the sight that he'd join in instead of being repulsed. Of course, there's also the option of doing a scene between Kurt and Heather (which I've already had some ideas as to how it could happen) or one with Ashley and her sister Hannah.
 
duskford, I'm curious, what are your ideas of a scene between Kurt and Heather? I have them paired in may last couple that I haven't written, and I'm wondering what you have in mind given their personalities.
 
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duskford, I'm curious, what are your ideas of a scene between Kurt and Heather? I have them paired in may last couple that I haven't written, and I'm wondering what you have in mind given their personalities.
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I only had one idea to be honest, I'm still thinking if I'll introduce it in my Zack/Heather storyline. After Heather and Zack got Victoria away from Kurt using the water prank, Vicky will get closer to Zack and Heather will start to feel jealous. She won't want to use her charms on Zack in fear that he'll see it as the same cockteasing that she does on other guys, so she'll end up asking Kurt to seduce Victoria again by being a complete jerk this time, since Vicky can't help but become attracted to this kind of guy. However, Kurt being the jerk that he is, will blackmail Heather and ask for payment in exchange for his services, the payment being a blowjob or even sex.

I don't know if I'll use it though, since the story would become a little dark in my opinion. Outside of this, I don' see how a sweet scene could work out between Kurt and Heather, for them I think that it has to be something along the lines of rough, hate sex.
 
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That's about what I was thinking too unfortunately. I suppose I could write them having hate sex, and though it would fit for Kurt, I think it would be out of character for Heather. The way she's been written is that she needs to be in control, and Kurt couldn't relinquish that without a radical change to his character. If Kurt becomes less of a dick later, then perhaps, but until then, I agree with you.

Ah well, I have another idea for them -- basically, Heather dragged Kurt away from her friends so he couldn't prey on them. but she's intensely frustrated because she's rather be flirting with Zack or Gavin (mostly Zack I'd imagine however). The two get into a shouting match over each others' insecurities and sexual behavior, and I've even envisioned them fighting physically. Maybe Jennifer and her boyfriend ranger break them up, but either way, it's not a sexy ending. It is character development however, and I think it would be interesting to explore.
 
Maybe that physical fight can get to the point where they start groping each other, get horny and have sex in the woods. Another idea that just came to me is to use that kind of scene where they stumble upon two of the others having sex and get aroused by the sight.
 
duskford said:
Maybe that physical fight can get to the point where they start groping each other, get horny and have sex in the woods. Another idea that just came to me is to use that kind of scene where they stumble upon two of the others having sex and get aroused by the sight.
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I love a good exhibitionistic scene as much as the next guy, though I think I will attempt the angry fight sex. Sheer horniness will have to drive them, but it might work. Thanks for being a sounding board, duskford.
 
I just wanted to drop in and say that this is THE best story on the site!

I love that build up! I hope eventually that build up will lead somewhere but 99.99% of the stories on CHYOA skip the build up and are not interesting.

The characters also seem to be written in character. The Afterparty was doing well but out of the blue a rape happens (which is fine) but the main character does nothing to stop it???????? THEN the deflowered rape victim starts cumming from the 2nd rapist!!!! Total bullshit and insulting.

Here Kurt could conceivably do something as vile as rape but All the characters would react to stop it, even the meek Gavin would roused to action... The fact I know that shows how well you all have fleshed out their personalities! Please keep up the good work!
 
Thanks, XJ347, appreciate the compliment, I'm sure the others do as well.

Oddly enough, I was the one who set up the rape scene on 'The Afterparty', I wrote the thread leading to it and the one with the 2nd rapist. In my defense, I was pretty much a beginner on writing erotica and didn't know where else to go. On this story I can guarantee that it won't be any rape at least on my threads.
 
duskford said:
Thanks, XJ347, appreciate the compliment, I'm sure the others do as well.

Oddly enough, I was the one who set up the rape scene on 'The Afterparty', I wrote the thread leading to it and the one with the 2nd rapist. In my defense, I was pretty much a beginner on writing erotica and didn't know where else to go. On this story I can guarantee that it won't be any rape at least on my threads.
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Their is nothing wrong with rape as a tool. I think it is a good tool to demonize someone. My issue is that other story is that the victim orgasmed, and that the other people at the party didn't do anything to stop it. The moment Zack noticed, he would have stopped him. The whole thread was building on how much he he ralizes he likes his best friend. Seeing her being violated should have either either turned him on if he was a sissy (which he wasn't!), or enraged him into action. What happened though was that it was a non event, no one noticed or cared which is unrealistic.

I'm not in the crowd that says we should pretend rape doesn't happen, because the American rape culture exists BECAUSE we ignore it! Last house on the left, that rape scene is BRUTAL and shapes the characters to be the monsters that they are. I think we shouldn't glorify rape, and in effect that is what the the orgasming victim is. True some women will orgasm from the physical stimulation (would never happen a virgin though), but writing about the female orgasm makes it sound consensual.

Don't change your writing plan because of me, especially since your work has been great in this story!

Did, I mention I check your thread every day? Really good stuff!
 
XJ347 said:
Their is nothing wrong with rape as a tool. I think it is a good tool to demonize someone. My issue is that other story is that the victim orgasmed, and that the other people at the party didn't do anything to stop it. The moment Zack noticed, he would have stopped him. The whole thread was building on how much he he ralizes he likes his best friend. Seeing her being violated should have either either turned him on if he was a sissy (which he wasn't!), or enraged him into action. What happened though was that it was a non event, no one noticed or cared which is unrealistic.

I'm not in the crowd that says we should pretend rape doesn't happen, because the American rape culture exists BECAUSE we ignore it! Last house on the left, that rape scene is BRUTAL and shapes the characters to be the monsters that they are. I think we shouldn't glorify rape, and in effect that is what the the orgasming victim is. True some women will orgasm from the physical stimulation (would never happen a virgin though), but writing about the female orgasm makes it sound consensual.

Don't change your writing plan because of me, especially since your work has been great in this story!

Did, I mention I check your thread every day? Really good stuff!
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Yeah, on that story in particular I was going to write a thread where the main character stopped the game, thus ending the story with possibly a sex scene between him and his friend. But then the owner of the story wrote the rape thread and I thought that's what the readers wanted, to continue the story with an orgy. Then I tried to downplay the rape by making her be in a pleasure induced stupor that caused her to enjoy it, but I guess that only made things worse in the end.

Regarding my story, I wouldn't be changing anything because I'm really not planning a rape scene on my storyline. Of course, other writers are welcome to do it in their own threads and I'll approve it, given that it is believable and it doesn't have extreme violence.

Again, thanks for the compliments.
 
XJ347 said:
I'm not in the crowd that says we should pretend rape doesn't happen, because the American rape culture exists BECAUSE we ignore it! Last house on the left, that rape scene is BRUTAL and shapes the characters to be the monsters that they are. I think we shouldn't glorify rape, and in effect that is what the the orgasming victim is. True some women will orgasm from the physical stimulation (would never happen a virgin though), but writing about the female orgasm makes it sound consensual.
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Completely agree. Look, I like submission/domination/ravishment fantasies, and I think there's nothing hotter than "giving in" to your desires with someone. My partner and I do that all the time with roleplay, but the difference is of course it's consensual. Rape is a crime of power over someone, taking away their autonomy in a situation, and I agree that portraying rapists as monsters in media is the best way to demonstrate that. (Don't even get me started on Fifty Shades of Grey, that's Stockholm syndrome the book, not BDSM.) I certainly agree that any act like this by Kurt would be roundly vilified, as evidenced by Vain's thread where Heather kicked him out and Zack was about to waylay him after forcing himself on Ashley.

I certainly hope that my thread with Heather and Kurt comes off not as rape, but as the desires of two very sexually-active people manifesting themselves in a bizarre way. It's not that either one of them wants to have sex with each other (though Kurt is enjoying it too much), but they're getting some physical satisfaction out of the experience while proving something about themselves. Kurt wants Heather to admit she's just like him, uncaring about who she would screw around with in the end, and allowing him to have sex with her would prove that in his mind. Heather thinks Kurt is simply a manwhore, willing to go for any pussy available, and again allowing him to have sex with her would prove that. There is consent, though not necessarily to the act for their pleasure, but to prove a point in their minds. As such, unless my threads turn into a giant orgy, I think this would be a one-off thing for both of them and I don't foresee any psychological damage on the part of Heather. I'll accept any and all criticism, but since you think I'm on the right path though duskford, I'll take that as a good sign :)

duskford said:
Yeah, on that story in particular I was going to write a thread where the main character stopped the game, thus ending the story with possibly a sex scene between him and his friend. But then the owner of the story wrote the rape thread and I thought that's what the readers wanted, to continue the story with an orgy. Then I tried to downplay the rape by making her be in a pleasure induced stupor that caused her to enjoy it, but I guess that only made things worse in the end.
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You had a noble intent and I appreciate that certainly. I actually considered that branching point too before I got involved with your story and made my own, and now I prefer your story better anyway, so I focused on that, lol.
 
So, I made a rough draft for the current storyline that I'm writing and I thought that now would be the right time to ask this: what do you guys want to see in my storyline that hasn't been touched yet? It's that one where Zack and Heather share a room, then he gives up on Victoria and gets closer to Heather only to have a chance encounter with Vicky that changes everything again and Heather gets jealous.

I asking this so I can see if I can manage to squeeze in any eventual requests that readers might have. The question is mainly directed to the readers, but if my fellow writers want to give an opinion, input or request, I'm accepting it as well.

Cheers!
 
A mortal coil 'enjoying' rape is without anything to do with whether a woman consents to sex or not. In that condition, the body 'enjoyment' protects it from further physical damage.

The psychological trauma for the victim may encourage them to think it's their fault, but that is wrong. I believe it is wrong to chose to see a woman's 'enjoyment' as evidence against qualifying it as rape.

With that in mind, the choices an audience member makes in how they 'choose' to perceive a fictional story fails to be the responsibility of an author. I am referring to their choice of what a mortal coil's enjoyment means.
duskford said:
Yeah, on that story in particular I was going to write a thread where the main character stopped the game, thus ending the story with possibly a sex scene between him and his friend. But then the owner of the story wrote the rape thread and I thought that's what the readers wanted, to continue the story with an orgy. Then I tried to downplay the rape by making her be in a pleasure induced stupor that caused her to enjoy it, but I guess that only made things worse in the end.

Regarding my story, I wouldn't be changing anything because I'm really not planning a rape scene on my storyline. Of course, other writers are welcome to do it in their own threads and I'll approve it, given that it is believable and it doesn't have extreme violence.

Again, thanks for the compliments.
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In the event that what I wrote and recently submitted is approved, I wished to explain here Taylor's motivation.

Unwritten is that Kurt seduced Taylor at some point but ended up dropping her when Ashley and Brandon broke up. Then he went back to the seeming tough cookie of Ashley, since seemingly he reinforced the failed reasoning his delusions with what she 'apparently' did.

Taylor is vindictive and wrathful enough to pay attention to who Kurt went to next. When she saw Ashley she was interested in her, now by renewed close proximity she has found herself interested in her own brother and Victoria. She allows herself to contemplate this because it is obvious to her what Ashley wants.

By proximity Taylor heard the leap of reason and logic Victoria's parents made about Zack and Ashley. Unlike Victoria, Taylor chooses to believe it mostly because of things Kurt had said when they were together and the situation as it becomes. She finds herself falling in love with Ashley and reasons any future with her would include falling in love with Victoria and Taylor.

I failed to see a reason or way to make Taylor's psyche clear in what I wrote so far; But I thought Duskford and others may enjoy knowing this.
 
I've approved your threads, 2p1k3. Like I've said at the comments' section, I liked them because you've explored a different theme and that can only be good for the story.
 
Just passing through to let you guys know that I'm planning a sequel. The storyline would be the future of my threads in the current story, the present characters would return to Silver Lake with their children this time. I already have most of the current story mapped out, the only thing that I still haven't decided is if Zack will end up with Victoria or Heather.
 
Awesome! I'll definitely contribute when you post it. I vote Heather, since that's my favorite pairing so far.
 
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